Le mercredi 03 juillet 2013 à 09:54 +0200, Johannes Lips a écrit : > > > > On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 9:47 AM, Michael Scherer <misc@xxxxxxxx> wrote: > Le mercredi 03 juillet 2013 à 09:44 +0200, Johannes Lips a > écrit : > > > > > > > > On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 9:32 AM, drago01 <drago01@xxxxxxxxx> > wrote: > > On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 11:54 PM, Dan Mashal > > <dan.mashal@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 2:52 PM, Pierre-Yves Luyten > > <py@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > >> Not sure if it makes any sense but maybe could we > have > > something like > > >> "freeze tag changes until desc is better". > > >> > > >> I propose this because testers will not _really_ > want to -1 > > karma, and > > >> as a maintainer it might be a bit hard, but with > a good > > reminder like > > >> "not pushed to stable until desc is better" I > would have > > made less > > >> mistakes > > >> > > >> yes not being reminded is not an excuse and such > proposal > > would not save > > >> time, still I believe it could help more than > hurt > > > > > > > > > There is already a perfect example of this. > > > > > > > > > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-11846/selinux-policy-3.12.1-57.fc19 > > > > > > This is also a perfect example of useless "does not > fix bug x" > > karma. > > If it is not *worse* then the previous package there > is no > > reason to > > give it negative karma. > > If it doesn't fix the bugs, the update should fix, it is > appropriate > > to give negative karma. Otherwise the bugs would be closed, > when it > > becomes stable, but won't be fixed. > > > That's not what the guidelines say : > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Update_feedback_guidelines#Update_does_not_fix_a_bug_it_claims_to > Could be, but if the still broken bugs are going to be closed, when > the update becomes stable, doesn't really help, or? Given that this is > enabled in the update. Then we could decide on : - better process, ie "if you happen to notice a bug is not fixed by update, please reopen it" - better tooling, ie a way to say "do not close this bug" to bodhi. Either a message in bodhi, or something on bugzilla side. -- Michael Scherer -- Michael Scherer -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel