On Sat, 2013-05-18 at 19:22 +0200, Tomasz Torcz wrote: > On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 10:12:52AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Sat, 2013-05-18 at 06:18 -0400, Daniel J Walsh wrote: > > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=962081 > > > > > > I have a request to change the name of selinux-policy-devel to > > > selinux-policy-devel-support, since > > > > > > "everywhere else in the distro -devel means just header files in c and not any > > > other development tools and we have several scripts that assume that's the case." > > > > > > selinux-policy-devel contains interface files and tools required to build > > > selinux-policy. It also currently contains the man pages, which I can move to > > > the base package. > > > > Well, there may have been some signals crossed somewhere. I've been part > > of the discussion about reducing the size of the desktop spin. > > selinux-policy-devel doesn't look bad to me, the one that looks like a > > problem is policycoreutils-devel : > > > > "The policycoreutils-devel package contains the management tools use to > > develop policy in an SELinux environment." > > > > Now *that* is a non-standard interpretation of the -devel suffix. And > > policycoreutils-devel requires selinux-policy-devel - a package of > > 'runtime' stuff depending on a package of 'build time' stuff - and > > various 'runtime' packages depend on policycoreutils-devel, notably the > > SELinux troubleshooting thing, because policycoreutils-devel contains > > audit2allow. > > SELinux *management* often means *building* parts of policy. That's > the problem, right? Right, exactly. 'developing' SELinux policy is not an act of 'development' like writing code, and it's something we quite actively offer to people at run time - one of the actions the SELinux troubleshooting GUI offers in many AVC cases is 'run audit2allow to generate a policy that will allow this action', for instance, hence its dependency on policycoreutils-devel. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel