Re: FPC elections

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On 05/16/2013 11:16 AM, Josh Boyer wrote:
On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 5:25 AM, Vít Ondruch <vondruch@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Dne 14.5.2013 20:46, Josh Boyer napsal(a):
Heck the community did not have the faintest idea which tickets they even
worked ( or did any work at all )  on until I literally request they
adopted
the fesco model so we atleast could get a faint idea what was going to be
discussed on those meeting...
Sounds like working with them has paid off nicely.  Maybe you should
do more of that.

Let's just continue to cross finger hope that those that have been chosen
<-- yeah that's right not elected but chosen bother to show up to do
their
due diligence and reach a quorum.
The elections are open, and the voting is not rigged.  You can be
displeased all you like about who gets elected and what they choose
(or not choose) to look at, but that doesn't make those committees a
farce.

This complaint was about FPC and you are unfortunately wrong about that:

http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/packaging/2013-April/009068.html
http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel-announce/2013-May/001147.html

There is nothing like open election to FPC.
Ah.  I thought he was referring to FESCo and being hyperbolic.

Yet you responded...

"Sounds like working with them has paid off nicely. Maybe you should do more of that."

Which indicates your realized that I was referring to FPC not FESCO or being hyperbolic.

Anyway working with them does not make the process going any faster since to me the FPC and it's concept is the bottleneck vs the open way of ack/nack/patch approach where you would have more participants and eyes on the guidelines changes including by the ones that already are on FPC.

It seem to me that the reason people would not want this is because of their own lack of faith and trust in the community and Vít is right if we are going to "hang on" having FPC then the current members should be relieved from their duty and an open election held for their positions within the community.



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