On Wed, 2013-05-15 at 12:21 -0600, Pete Zaitcev wrote: > On Tue, 14 May 2013 20:03:41 -0500 > Michael Catanzaro <mike.catanzaro@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > Well the open model has already been tried and proven in openSUSE, and > > they're still using it because it actually works really well. There > > aren't usually any issues regarding overlap of work, though admittedly > > that community is a smaller than Fedora's. It's hard to get away with > > scp /home/*/.ssh/id_rsa evilhost because every change is always reviewed > > by a small group of maintainers responsible for a collection of > > packages. > > How do they deal with a conflict? Imagine someone there splitting > texlive into 2500 subpackages and then 100 angry contributors > reverting it. What are they going to do in their "open" model then? FWIW, Mandriva used a similar open-commit model - compared to Fedora, basically all packagers were proven packagers and could commit to almost anything, a small range of packages were 'protected' as they are in Fedora - and I don't recall any significant issues like this actually popping up. In general, if you give F/OSS people a collaborative system, they will work collaboratively. It seems pessimistic to assume that people would get into edit wars just because they disagreed. It would be true to say that the Mandriva package corpus overall was on average of somewhat lower quality, in terms of conforming to the distro guidelines, than Fedora's is, but I don't think that can be attributed to the collaborative model so much as to a simple lack of sufficient personpower. If anything it would have been *worse* without motivated packagers being able to go through the whole package base and fix up problems. (Probably the extant Mandriva forks still use such a model, but I'm not really involved in any of them so I can't say for sure.) It is worth remembering that we do have provenpackagers in Fedora, quite a lot of them, and at least some of us with provenpackager status aren't shy about using it. It's not accurate to think about Fedora as being a *strictly* maintainer-only model. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel