On 3 May 2013 01:46, Adam Williamson <awilliam@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Thu, 2013-05-02 at 22:44 +0200, Simone Caronni wrote:Well, "we have this thing that sucks, so let's add this OTHER thing that
> I think is already a bit too late, unfortunately. On my laptop:
>
> xorg-x11-drv-vmmouse-13.0.0-1.fc18.x86_64
> xorg-x11-drv-vmware-12.0.2-3.20120718gite5ac80d8f.fc18.x86_64
> xorg-x11-drv-qxl-0.0.22-5.20120718gitde6620788.fc18.x86_64
> spice-vdagent-0.14.0-1.fc18.x86_64
sucks" has never been the strongest logic :P
[..]
It seems like the thing to do would be to ask anaconda if it's
feasible / desirable to make the installation of this stuff contingent
on the environment. I kinda agree with Rich on the 'generic cloud image'
case; it doesn't seem like it'd be too difficult to just explicitly
include the necessary packages in generating such an image, so I don't
think it's particularly compelling to say we have to put useless
packages on everyone's systems just so that someone building a generic
image has a slightly easier time of it.
If anaconda doesn't want to do the 'contingent install' thing, then the
'just install it everywhere' option seems like the second best choice.
Yes, this is exactly my point, I was simply showing an example of this.
I'm not a sponsor of having open-vm-tools installed by default.
My preference would be not to install anything that is needed for a particular environment and install the additional packages on demand.
I dont' see any problem in performing one of those for a sysadmin:
yum install open-vm-tools
yum install open-vm-tools-desktop (this could pull the vmmouse and vmware xorg drivers in)
yum install open-vm-tools-desktop (this could pull the vmmouse and vmware xorg drivers in)
yum install spice-vdagent (this could pull the qxl driver in)
yum install ovirt-guest-agent
an image is never prepared as-is with the default installation, so I don't see the problem of performing an additional command.
Having said that; what would be cool, is to have Anaconda detect the environment and install the correct packages at install time, so for example a user could have a nice starting impression after the first install.
Regards,
--Simone
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