On 05/01/2013 06:37 PM, Pádraig Brady wrote: > Why are we tied to DVD-5, 4.7GB (4.3GiB) at all? > Do we distribute DVDs? Yes. Check with Fedora Ambassadors in EMEA. > If so couldn't we use a newer DVD standard? That would reduce coverage significantly. The de facto standard (what "customers" have) is what was prevalent in the first world 5 to 7 years ago; which omits 8.5GB DVD (DVD/DL). > I can't see any users wanting to burn DVDs > rather than using USB sticks etc. I burn DVDs. I use them. I use USB flash memory, too, but DVDs have advantages for some of my uses: - DVD can be labeled with a marking pen - burning 16X DVD+R is faster than livecd-iso-to-disk to USB flash memory - keeping track of 10 DVD (different contents) is not a problem - DVD is much less likely to be overwritten (DVD+R "never") - DVD is incrementally less expensive (the next 16X DVD+R is $0.25 to $0.40; 4X DVD+RW is $0.40 to $0.60; 8GB USB flash memory with >= 5MB/s average during an install is $9) - DVD is inexpensive to give away - DVD collection of releases is useful for archive and support - DVD+R lasts >= 10 years; USB flash tends to fail (bit errors) in 7 to 8 years. - I still support hardware that cannot boot directly from USB. -- -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel