On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 8:28 PM, Chris Adams <cmadams@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Once upon a time, Lennart Poettering <mzerqung@xxxxxxxxxxx> said: >> Hmm, I'd very much prefer if the defaults are built into the kernel, and >> that sysctl in userspace is then used only by the admin to override these >> defaults, so that by default we ship with empty sysctl.d/ dirs. >> >> So, before I merge anything like this into systemd, why can't the kernel >> default setting simply be flipped? > > Upstream kernel said "no, distros can do it in userspace", and Fedora > aims to remain true to upstream. Also, if upstream kernel does one > thing and Fedora kernel the opposite, users would have unexpected > defaults changing if they built their own kernel for some reason. > > Why would this need to be merged into systemd? Why not just sysctl.conf > (or I guess the new-and-improved /usr/lib/sysctl.d/00-system.conf, which > comes from initscripts)? My patch put it in /usr/lib/sysctl.d, just coming from systemd itself. We could possibly throw that file into initscripts if systemd doesn't want to make that change (though I think Lennart would have the same objection). josh -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel