My machine suspends to disk when I close the lid while it is unplugged. So ... Quite often. I would love to see the GRUB menu disabled by default, but I am also content with doing it myself post-install. On Mon 11 March 2013 21:51:01 Steve Clark wrote: > On 03/11/2013 05:04 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: > > On Mon, 11.03.13 21:45, Nicolas Mailhot (nicolas.mailhot@xxxxxxxxxxx) wrote: > >> Le Lun 11 mars 2013 21:16, Lennart Poettering a écrit : > >>> On Mon, 11.03.13 13:08, Chris Murphy (lists@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx) wrote: > >>>> On Mar 11, 2013, at 11:31 AM, Björn Persson > >>>> <bjorn@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >>>> > >>>> wrote: > >>>>> Or nothing at all displayed unless the user happens to know to press > >>>> > >>>> some key at the > >>>> > >>>>> right moment? > >>>> > >>>> A multiboot system needs at least a message to inform the user how to > >>>> get to the boot manager (the GRUB menu). A Fedora only system probably > >>>> should entirely suppress the menu or notice how to get to it. > >>> > >>> Somebody who is capable of installing multiple operating systems on one > >>> machine should easily be savvy enough to remember that pressing > >>> shift/esc/space/f2/whatever gets him the boot menu. > >>> > >>> If you installed multiple OSes and noticed that the boot menu is gone, > >>> wouldn't pressing these keys be your natural reaction anyway? > >> > >> My natural reaction would be to curse whoever is making me waste minutes > >> in press-random-keys-to-see-if-you-can-unlock-boot games to "win" a few > >> seconds. I'm pretty sure any poll would find the same result. > > > > My natural reaction to the current grub2 menu that steals my boot is > > that I start to hate Fedora and Linux for that we waste our time in ugly > > boot menus and bikeshedding about them. > > > > Lennart > > How many times do you boot a day? If it is more than once or twice I would > posit that is not the normal user. So what is 2 extra seconds? -- Ryan Rix http://rix.si
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