Le Mar 12 mars 2013 16:09, Gerd Hoffmann a écrit : > Hi, > >>> Keep in mind that the not show the menu by default plan depends on >>> the bootspec changes, and that will include a gui tool which will >>> allow users to select things like show the menu (and then it won't have >>> a timeout so be easier to get to), or even to directly select the >>> kernel to boot next time. >> >> Any gui tool requires a successful boot >> >> Successful means kernel ok, systemd ok, selinux ok, x/wayland ok, gdm >> ok, >> gnome-shell ok >> (replace with other de equivalents) >> >> There are so many parts there where we *fail* the user regularly I don't >> see how can anyone reasonably propose to build any safety net over them. >> >> For example, how are you going to deal with gfx drivers that break after >> a >> kernel update? The system thinks all is fine, even though the display >> necessary for any gui is garbage. > > Well. lilo (anyone remembers?) had a cool feature to address that, and > for grub1 patches where floating around to implement something simliar. > > You could do "lilo -R $kernel $args". This is not a solution to deal with everyday Fedora kernel updates that do break gfx drivers every once in a while. The computer is here to help the user not the reverse. Every time you exchange some computer work with some human work you lose. -- Nicolas Mailhot -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
