On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 2:13 PM, Steve Clark <sclark@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On 03/12/2013 07:04 AM, drago01 wrote: > > On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 11:37 AM, Reindl Harald <h.reindl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > wrote: > > Am 12.03.2013 09:55, schrieb drago01: > > On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 10:22 PM, seth vidal <skvidal@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > wrote: > > On Mon, 11 Mar 2013 16:18:33 -0500 > Michael Cronenworth <mike@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On 03/11/2013 04:13 PM, seth vidal wrote: > > I want to encourage kids, teenagers, etc to explore the OS. We need > them to be involved in CREATING and LEARNING. So I don't want to > scare any of them off. > > My OLPC does not present any boot menu or prompt. > > That's not an argument for why we should not present one. It is an > argument for why they should be. > > Sorry but that's nonsense. Pretty much all other operating systems do > not display the boot loader by default and you see this as a reason > for showing it? > What kind of weird logic is that? Or do you really think we can have > "we do show a screen that you won't care about most of the time on > every boot" as a selling point for fedora? > > who cares about OTHER operating systems? > > You can't develop an operating system while living under a rock you > have to look at what the competition does. > > if i would want their behavior i would install them > > Strawman. > > are you guys booting the whole day your machines that > save 2 seconds is woth any discussion? > > Yes 2 seconds is a LONG time when your system is using an SSD. > Booting should be instant there is no reason why we should have to > wait before being able to use the system. (killing grub delay gets us > closer to that goal). > > I'd say booting is a more common task then messing with bootloader > options so lets optimize for the former rather then the later. > > How many times do you boot your system each day? 10? Okay thats a whole 20 > additional seconds. Depends on the day ... but the point is I (and 99.99%) of computer uses want to turn the device on and work with it. Not mess with random options every time for the sake of messing with random options. -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
