On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 9:55 PM, Ralf Corsepius <rc040203@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > I disagree. Fedora's lack of popularity is largely thanks to these issues. > > In this context, I feel the Cinnamon request rsp. the "give users a choice > on DEs" attempts are part of an attempt to escape the at least one of the > dead-end roads Fedora currently is stuck in (The Gnome3 dead-end). I disagree. I do not think the existence of Cinnamon as yet another environment does anything to address any of the things you previously listed: "Freaks'/nerds' distro", "Ubuntu is much easier", "Fedora lacks soooo much", "Way too unstable", "Way too short life-cycles." I view your inclusion of your list as a general angst filled pile-on, and not constructive for the feature proposal discussion. -jef"the real solution to all these problems is openCDE, which I look forward to proposing as default in the F20 cycle"spaleta -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel