Re: Proposed F19 Feature: New firstboot

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On Tue, 2013-01-29 at 14:28 -0500, John.Florian@xxxxxxxx wrote:
> Stijn Hoop <stijn@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote on 01/29/2013 14:20:50:
> 
> > On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 14:07:55 -0500
> > John.Florian@xxxxxxxx wrote:
> > 
> > > > From: Martin Sivak <msivak@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > the tool will be started using systemd unit file which can be 
> > > > disabled. It will have to be explicit (even minimal install
> needs 
> > > > users or root password), but we can figure something out.
> > > 
> > > In my experience, root password is handled by the installer and
> > > firstboot is not needed to configure users if puppet is being used
> to
> > > configure them.  (Also there are many Fedora systems out there
> having
> > > only root and the system accounts -- i.e., no real users.)  Having
> to
> > > disable the firstbooot systemd unit file just to get to a root
> prompt
> > > so that puppet can be installed would be a PITA.  The whole idea
> of
> > > puppet is to avoid having to such things because it can automate
> them.
> > 
> > What he said -- forcing a root pw or creating users is going to be a
> > PITA for us. Please add a way to disable it, preferably using
> kickstart.
> > 
> > --Stijn
> 
> I agree that it should be possible to easily disable firstboot in the
> kickstart, but I also believe that one should be able to easily
> sidestep firstboot after a regular install.  I don't have the time to
> create a kickstart for every conceivable use we have of Fedora here
> (although that would clearly be my preference because then puppet
> would be built in and start itself as "our firstboot and every
> boot").  Presently I give users the Fedora image and then direct them
> to a document that explains how to install and start puppet which does
> the rest of the setup for them.  It works very smoothly this way, but
> only if there are very few steps between finish the install and
> starting puppet.

When I install a freeipa server I do not want firstboot because I am not
going to create local users anyway. I am going to install freeipa and
then create users in LDAP.

So far I just skipped firstboot by using tricks, like telling it I was
going to configure a network server and then just canceling. But it
would be nicer if I could simply skip it.

Simo.

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Simo Sorce * Red Hat, Inc * New York

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