On Tue, 2013-01-29 at 14:28 -0500, John.Florian@xxxxxxxx wrote: > Stijn Hoop <stijn@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote on 01/29/2013 14:20:50: > > > On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 14:07:55 -0500 > > John.Florian@xxxxxxxx wrote: > > > > > > From: Martin Sivak <msivak@xxxxxxxxxx> > > > > the tool will be started using systemd unit file which can be > > > > disabled. It will have to be explicit (even minimal install > needs > > > > users or root password), but we can figure something out. > > > > > > In my experience, root password is handled by the installer and > > > firstboot is not needed to configure users if puppet is being used > to > > > configure them. (Also there are many Fedora systems out there > having > > > only root and the system accounts -- i.e., no real users.) Having > to > > > disable the firstbooot systemd unit file just to get to a root > prompt > > > so that puppet can be installed would be a PITA. The whole idea > of > > > puppet is to avoid having to such things because it can automate > them. > > > > What he said -- forcing a root pw or creating users is going to be a > > PITA for us. Please add a way to disable it, preferably using > kickstart. > > > > --Stijn > > I agree that it should be possible to easily disable firstboot in the > kickstart, but I also believe that one should be able to easily > sidestep firstboot after a regular install. I don't have the time to > create a kickstart for every conceivable use we have of Fedora here > (although that would clearly be my preference because then puppet > would be built in and start itself as "our firstboot and every > boot"). Presently I give users the Fedora image and then direct them > to a document that explains how to install and start puppet which does > the rest of the setup for them. It works very smoothly this way, but > only if there are very few steps between finish the install and > starting puppet. When I install a freeipa server I do not want firstboot because I am not going to create local users anyway. I am going to install freeipa and then create users in LDAP. So far I just skipped firstboot by using tricks, like telling it I was going to configure a network server and then just canceling. But it would be nicer if I could simply skip it. Simo. -- Simo Sorce * Red Hat, Inc * New York -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel