Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Yum Groups as Objects

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On Mon, 2013-01-28 at 13:53 -0500, Casey Dahlin wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 10:26:01AM -0600, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
> > On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 16:52:18 +0100,
> >   Kamil Dudka <kdudka@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > >
> > >I have been always wondering why yum needs a special set of commands to
> > >manipulate groups of packages.  What would be the downside of using just
> > >packages that install no files (a.k.a. meta-packages) instead of groups?
> > 
> > Removing meta packages doesn't remove the dependencies. So you more
> > or less have the same problem. It is easy to install groups, but
> > tricky to remove them.
> 
> I thought we'd been shipping remove-with-leaves by default for awhile now.

 It got renamed clean_requirements_on_remove when it was merged, and it
works. There were some tests around turning it on by default, but as
always the big problem is very few people nobody care a small amount
about an extra few K of packages left installed ... but everyone cares a
lot when yum removes things they didn't predict it would remove.
 It's not obvious that Kamil wants that though or something more like
the opposite of "upgrade_requirements_on_install", to be used to remove
things on removal.

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