Hi, > If a fedup upgrade can go offline for a lengthy, but uncertain, amount > of time, then the lack of feedback is worrying. You can't hold your > breath for 25 minutes, you don't know when to conclude that you have a > serious problem that will require help from the data center staff, and > you don't have any idea where the process went off-track. I actually like fedup, and I guess I'll go stop using yum for upgrades if I can use fedup instead. I've seen anaconda upgrades (be it dvd-based or via preupgrade) blow up multiple times and settled on using yum instead. But fedup is different. Even though it is still quite young I actually trust it to get things right. It fetches all packages, then does a transaction check and if that fails it says so and allows you to fixup stuff before actually kicking the upgrade. Remove orphaned packages causing dep issues, cleanup disk so filesystems have enough free space to run the transaction, whatever is needed. That is very simliar to how you handle issues when upgrading using yum. Once everything is settled and fedup says "reboot to upgrade" you can be pretty sure that it will work fine. cheers, Gerd -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel