Re: Proposed F19 Feature: systemd/udev Predictable Network Interface Names

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On Thu, 24.01.13 07:17, John Reiser (jreiser@xxxxxxxxxxxx) wrote:

> On 01/23/2013 01:54 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote:
> 
> > This code has the benefit of:
> > - covering more device types (not just BIOSes with type 9 & type 41)
> > - not attempting to do heuristics that name devices via enumeration
> > 
> > However, it does have the large disadvantage of changing the namespace used.
> 
> Another cause for concern by users is the maintenance record of systemd:

Oh, really?

>   https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=841822
>   pungi can't create installable media with F17 + updates
> 
> For about five months from July through December 2012
> a bug in systemd-44-17.fc17 prevented installation of Fedora 17
> using an updated .iso/DVD/USB containing the then-current packages.
> Obviously there were workarounds, but the long persistence of the bug
> was irksome and slowed the adoption of Fedora 17.
> The root cause was identified in just a few days:
>   https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=841822#c9
> but the fix for Fedora 17 did not appear despite gentle ping.
> 
> Please pay more attention to maintenance of systemd.

I am sorry, but I am actually kinda sure we (and particularly Michal)
are doing a very good job there. The number of bugs is pretty low for
such a basic component of this size, especially if you discount RFEs and
suchlike.

My guess is that there's simply a disparity between how important you
considered that specific bug and how it appeared to us. Also note that
the issue was not so clearly on systemd's side of things...

Also, thanks for derailing the discussion with something totally
unrelated.

Lennart

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