On Thu, 7 Oct 2004 13:19, Bill Nottingham <notting@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > If you move to this new thing, do you do one dir per daemon? One > > > per process? Something else? > > > > One per security context. So have /var/run/sendmail for sendmail.pid and > > sm-client.pid as they are both part of the sendmail service. > > Then there's really no good way for Joe Random Process to know > that the pid for sm-client is in the sendmail dir. There's absolutely no way for Joe Random Process to know that the pid for the second copy of /usr/sbin/sendmail.sendmail is named sm-client.pid! If sm-client.pid was in the directory /var/run/sendmail then figuring out that the sendmail process is related to the /var/run/sendmail directory is not overly difficult. I am not suggesting that we do anything new, I am merely suggesting that the practices of putting pid files in sub-directories as currently used by Quagga, mdadm, radiusd (*), and dovecot be extended for more daemons. I think that your point about the difficulty for Joe Random Process in finding the pid file is a really good one and supports my case well. (*) The radiusd start script creates a sym-link /var/run/radiusd.pid which points to the real location. This is a good idea, I would be happy if /var/run was filled with sym-links and directories containing the real files. -- http://www.coker.com.au/selinux/ My NSA Security Enhanced Linux packages http://www.coker.com.au/bonnie++/ Bonnie++ hard drive benchmark http://www.coker.com.au/postal/ Postal SMTP/POP benchmark http://www.coker.com.au/~russell/ My home page