On 11/16/2012 10:13 AM, Michel Alexandre Salim wrote: > Sending this to the relevant package owners as well as the development > list - if there's too much pushback, I'll look at backporting the > patches instead, though given that LLVM 3.2 is scheduled for release > next month, if we agree, going forward, that occasional stack rebuilds > are acceptable, it would really lower the maintenance burden, instead > of having to support 3 LLVM releases. I am a strong believer that new features should only be introduced in new Fedora releases. This is why we have releases after all: so that people could choose when they get new features. If they want stability [1], they can choose not to upgrade; if they want new features (new LLVM/Clang, new Mesa), they upgrade to a new Fedora release [2]. We even have an official guideline that states: "Releases of the Fedora distribution are like releases of the individual packages that compose it. A major version number reflects a more-or-less stable set of features and functionality. As a result, we should avoid major updates of packages within a stable release. Updates should aim to fix bugs, and not introduce features /.../" [3] [1] Of course, this only works if we we manage to get Fedora releases out in time, not slipping for months like with F18. [2] With "stable" here I mean "not subject to change". A stable platform is something that does not change. [3] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Updates_Policy -- Kalev -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel