On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 09:44:55AM -0500, Gregory Maxwell wrote: > On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 9:26 AM, Chris Adams <cmadams@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Great - let's take something that people are using, remove that > > functionality, and not announce it! > > > > This is not cool; it represents one of my biggest frustrations with a > > bunch of the "new and improved" ways of doing things. You track down > > how to do something, it works for a few releases, and then it doesn't > > anymore with no notice. > > I don't mind this much in isolation— and to some extent its > unavoidable if there is to be progress. > > I also have the experience and impression that Fedora often dismisses > use cases in the 'long tail' as things that "power users" can get by > twiddling some opaque config file or registry entry or hacking some > bit of code— this happens more often the closer you get to the > desktop, but believe its a culture which permeates the project more > generally than that. In isolation this too would be occasionally > frustrating but finite in baddness. > > The combination of the two— that anything non-stock is subject to > constant and often undocumented breakage _and_ that many non > nearly-universal use cases are too non-mainstream to consider > supportable stock features really diminishes the value I receive from > using a distribution at all. I was trying yesterday to formulate a question for the people running for FESCo along these lines; also what they thought about: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4772133 However I wasn't able to formulate a snappy and non-carping question in time for the deadline. Still, I do believe it's something that FESCo (those elected and those standing for election) ought to address. Rich. -- Richard Jones, Virtualization Group, Red Hat http://people.redhat.com/~rjones Read my programming blog: http://rwmj.wordpress.com Fedora now supports 80 OCaml packages (the OPEN alternative to F#) http://cocan.org/getting_started_with_ocaml_on_red_hat_and_fedora -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel