Am 09.11.2012 23:57, schrieb drago01: > On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 10:23 PM, Reindl Harald <h.reindl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >> >> Am 09.11.2012 22:14, schrieb Kevin Fenzi: >>> I think the thing people are missing here is that yum dist upgrades are >>> perfectly fine for advanced users who know how to work around problems >>> and use the tools, but aren't very good for well, everyone else. >> >> yes and no >> >> one real benefit of the yum upgrade is that you get >> the latest updates which are often fixing many bugs >> realized AFTER the release > > So do upgrades done with preupgrade and fedup preupgrade is a blackbox and failed at the one try resulting after retry it only have preupgrade in the boot-menu - this day i learned how to write grub-config by hand and it was the last time touch preupgrade additionally you have NO way to verify grub-config, initramdisk ect. at all becasue you have no control like you have after a yum-upgrade where you can do any cleanups before reboot last but not least: on servers it is unusebale to run a upgrade OFFLINE after 160 upgrades on production servers and around 300 on test-systems the last few years i really do not need anybody explain me again that fedora is not for servers - i know what i am doing, i do not suggest anybody should use it for this, i only suggest "please keep in mind that there is a userbase which is happy and having the knowledge to deal with yum dist-upgrades, please do not break it in future releases"
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