----- Original Message ----- > On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 10:50 AM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" > <johannbg@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Yeah well I'm not so sure how you can actually expect that of the > > feature > > process given how utterly broken that is? > > > > For the first you are not obligated to participate in the feature > > process > > and even if you did what does the process categorize as an actual > > feature? > > > > And I propose that you start lowering your expectations since there > > is a > > proposal floating with FESCo where the main think is that they > > want to > > avoid voting on all features but just decide in details on the > > bigger > > scope/escalated ones to FESCo. The rest will be acked just by > > announcing > > them (and again - anyone can escalate it to FESCo)... > > I have no idea where you're getting this information, but I haven't > seen > anyone suggest anything like that. There is a desire to make the > Feature > process actually worthwhile, but it has nothing to do with blindly > acking > features. It's one think that was an outcome of me talking to a few FESCo members - so it's definitely not FESCo decision and I did not talk to everyone. I should really start on the actual proposal (and I wanted to come with a real one, not just talking) but - the main idea was to free FESCo hands by not having to approve every single feature and have a time to spent more on the system wide/escalated ones. Also the announcement is a part of better visibility of proposed features as this seems does not work well (and yeah, there's barrier as before the feature is approved by FESCo, it's just one of a huge list of incompleted ones). Although this does not solve a problem that some really big changes does not go through the process at all as it's not mandatory (or we do not have a way how to actually enforce it). Jaroslav > josh > -- > devel mailing list > devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel