On Tue, 2012-10-09 at 15:41 -0600, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > On 9 October 2012 15:24, Lennart Poettering <mzerqung@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Tue, 09.10.12 16:53, Simo Sorce (simo@xxxxxxxxxx) wrote: > > > If you want audit-like semantics with crashing if we cannot write, then > > use something else, not the journal. The journal is supposed to be > > robust and do the right thing so that you can leave it unnatteneded and > > whatever happens it didn't spill the disk or become unavailable. It's > > supposed to be "zero maintainance". > > So in those cases rsyslog would be required, but would be seen as a > post-install step. > > EG what you are looking at is building a GNOME-OS and for those sorts > of tablets, etc the journal is right for that. The other cases like at > a Hospital, trading firm or various .gov.XX then having rsyslog > installed with audit post would be the way to get the needed features. That's a completely manufactured fake dichotomy. So either we're building an OS for tablets, or we're building an OS for Goldman Sachs? And nothing in between? Come on... Dan > > -- > Stephen J Smoogen. > "Don't derail a useful feature for the 99% because you're not in it." > Linus Torvalds > "Years ago my mother used to say to me,... Elwood, you must be oh > so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I > recommend pleasant. You may quote me." —James Stewart as Elwood P. Dowd -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel