I wrote: > 3. If the user did not have some of the packages in the group installed, > explicitly listing them installs them, which is usually not what the user > wants. Oops, sorry, I just tested this, I was wrong about that one. But that in turn means that if the user had only subpackages installed, those will NOT be upgraded by the command Bodhi suggested (which only lists the main packages) even if there are versioned Requires between the main package and the subpackage(s). (That can be "fixed" by using "install" instead of "update", but then you're left with the problem from my original point 3.) Using the --advisory switch solves this problem nicely. Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel