Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2012-07-23)

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On 07/24/2012 09:29 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote:
"Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" (johannbg@xxxxxxxxx) said:
On 07/24/2012 08:49 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote:
Both this feature and yours, when first proposed, were suggested that
changes go through FPC.
What exactly was I supposed to discuss with FPC?
Standardization on the changes so it can be documented in the guidlines
so people know what to do in their unit file. (such as around
Documentation=, what fields are no longer necessary, etc.)

That's just laughable since afaik systemd would be the only program that is forced to go through these change and get the approvals from FPC while others simply get away with mentioning changes in upstream documentation.

I thought you guys meant the removal of the environment files that resides in /etc/sysconfig/ directory and that was why the feature was being rejected and mentioning that upstream needed some kind of upstream patching was just utter and total bullshit since putting environment files in /etc/sysconfig/$file is Fedora/RHEL specific and is the reason why upstream has been rejected our units when they have been submitted upstream...

Then you guys started to act like kids in candy store and cherry pick stuff from the feature requests well here's a news flash that wont work with me. When I submit features I will submit them as is, work on them as is and finish them myself as is ( although all help is always greatly appreciated and unlike others I give credit where credit is due ) I would be willing to add some other additional work that crosses path with mine to reduce work and speed up implementation of that relevant thing ( like the packaging preset feature does ) .

I ain't like so many other feature owners that just tag maintainers components in some bug report expect them do to all the work and then flag the feature 100% done before GA while at best it's half way there leaving someone else in the community to cleanup the remaining mess and us in QA to catch all the fallout from that in the process... 

With feature process which is as utterly broken like this, when I am forced to resubmit features that span over several release cycle again and again for no other purpose other then to waste people time because our feature process does not expect features to be able to span several release cycle and then you guys wonder why I did not resubmit the feature request lol...

JBG
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