On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 11:05 AM, Nelson Marques <nmo.marques@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Are you ready to accept patches on GTK+ and potentially on Xorg that > were declined from upstream? This should be your initial thoughts! Can you point me to the relevant discussion for any critical functionality patches which were actually submitted to the upstream projects in question and were rejected. My existing understanding is that unity can operate without any vendor patches being applied outside of compiz, and the patches to compiz have been upstreamed. Everything else is enhanced functionality that is non-critical. Particularly the xorg patches, as I am not aware of any critical xorg patches that exist. Obviously the utouch stuff, regardless of its upstream nature, is not critical functionality. That being said, I'm pretty confident the maintainers of the impacted packages are not going to take on substantial non-upstream patch sets to Xorg and Gnome. It really goes against the upstream what is reasonable ethos of this distribution. I'll remind you again that Unity isn't packaged in Debian for a reason. I would suggest this deep vendor patching of shared components is part of that reason. > Forking anything will lead this to nearly unmaintainable unless you > have someone working fulltime on it ;) Then this repository effort will continue to be a non-starter for inclusion. That is unfortunate. And due to the extensive nature of the package replacement, I will be actively dissuading anyone from using these packages. I will also be making an effort to inform community support providers in the irc and forum support channels to look up for these packages being on a user's system and to point those users to your preferred support channel for help with their system when problems arise wit operation associated with anything you replace including pulse audio and gnome. For the record, what is your preferred support channel for end-users to use if they encounter problems after installing these packages? -jef -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel