On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 05:59:09PM +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: > i saw a dist-upgrade on the fist-testmachine restart httpd > which failed for some reason and AFTER some time you could > start httpd again Leaving version X of /usr/sbin/httpd running after version Y of /usr/sbin/httpd is installed, plus associated loadable modules, is simply not a supportable system state. The software is not designed to cope with this situation. Notably, a SIGHUP of the httpd binary will attempt to use loadable modules from the new httpd with the old httpd binary. That is liable to kill or segfault the running daemon at best. Prior to the %posttrans-restart, we had numerous bug reports from people who updated, forget to restart the daemon, and then found their web server got killed during the night at the weekend when logrotate kicked in. That's not a good default. It's not unreasonable to request that the %posttrans-restart be made configurable, though I'm not sure exactly the best way. It would be nice if this could be co-ordinated in some fashion, so an update of any httpd module package could (optionally) trigger an httpd restart in %posttrans. Regards, Joe -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel