On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 6:46 PM, Kevin Kofler <kevin.kofler@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > drago01 wrote: > >> On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 3:30 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: >>> They "just work" as long as you don't try to actually exercise one of the >>> freedoms we stand for. >> >> Which one? > > "The freedom to study how the program works, and change it so it does your > computing as you wish (freedom 1)." Secure boot support won't stop you (or anyone else) from doing that. > "The freedom to distribute copies of your modified versions to others > (freedom 3)." > http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.en.html Neither that. >>> It's as easy as setting an option in the firmware ("BIOS") setup, so I >>> don't see why we can't just require it from everyone. >> >> It is easy for you, for me, for pretty much everyone on this mailing >> list but there are different types of users out there. >> And you effectively want to limit those users to a proprietary OS >> (they cannot even try our live images anymore). > > Just include instructions on how to disable "Secure" Boot on the common > firmware types (on the website, and on the cover of the DVDs we hand out at > events). Which is still unacceptable from a usability POV and people tend to not read docs. They will return it to you "this crap does not work". > There are only a handful BIOS vendors, I don't expect this to > change much with UEFI. BIOS vendors aren't really in control if this but the motherboard vendors and OEMs. And such settings tend to change from one hardware revision to another. -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel