No dia 26 de Abril de 2012 20:52, Paul Wouters <pwouters@xxxxxxxxxx> escreveu: > On Thu, 26 Apr 2012, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > >> So the big question is -- where did this break down? How can we update >> our >> documentation to guide people in this direction? > > > I find bugzilla as the core around which to navigate where things are > in a process difficult and inconvenient. Its emails don't really help > me as I get so many, and at the wrong times. The "my bugs" or > "frontpage" does not really help me to see which bugs have been updated > recently for me to look at. I end up opening 20+ tabs and scrolling down > in each item. > > Is there some kind of RSS plugin for bugzilla? > > Similarly, I find tracking all my packages and branches and repositories > not always that easy too, especially in the case of problems. Like I > modify git, push and build and it fails, and I ran out of time to look > at it. Perhaps people are using tools I'm not aware of? On my $dayjob I was sent to investigate build platforms since we're doing a lot of builds. I've investigated OBS and the main blocker was the fact that we didn't had SUSE Linux experts on our infra-structure teams. I've taken a very close look to Koji and it severely lacks a lot of 'project management' tools. Our decision was pretty much: - enhance mock scm plugin; - adopt mock as build tool; - make our own web appliance (Ruby) to include our needs for project management; - Build our own RPC based on mock XMLRPC (once more Ruby/Rails) My suggestion is that Koji does require a lot of work to add some project management. We're currently inspired on this part on Open Build Service , but we're adding our own stuff which goes with: - Integration with JIRA - Integration with Confluence Wiki - Integration with SCM and FishEye - Integration with some of our tools... I don't believe there's much that can be done without a lot of enhancements on Koji itself... By the way we don't have much expertise with Python on my $dayjob, so we've adopted Ruby because we have very good people with Ruby and a few specialists in other fields of interest. > It would also be nice if fedora could detect two day old 'testing' > packages, and popup with a +1/-1 karma vote box. It would result in me > giving much more karma then I do now and speed up the process, though it > would not handle karma for specific bugs that a specific update is > supposed to fix. > > Paul > > -- > devel mailing list > devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel -- Nelson Marques // I've stopped trying to understand sandwiches with a third piece of bread in the middle... -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel