On Mar 20, 2012, at 1:03 PM, Jesse Keating wrote: > I hate analogies, but no, the first step is working out in a gym to make sure you're in fit enough shape to go up the mountain. As a distractor from long, heated threads, and mountain person - gym bunnies get to altitude and implode routinely. If you want to be in shape for mountains, climb lots of stairs. I guess gyms have stair masters. Even dinky hills around here in Aspen get the heart to 90% MHR easily. So you need to work at getting to and maintaining high heart rates. Advance acclimation helps also. But this *requirements* thread is about acclimation, planning and anticipating the challenges of the climb. Serious climbs may involve days or months of this. So if the analogy holds, a lot of advance work has to be done before ARM actually is promoted to primary. This isn't the go, no-go meeting, or gear-up time. This is the shopping list. Now the ultra ridiculous: How about secondary architecture requirements demoted as-is to tertiary. And create substantially more aggressive requirements for secondary architecture (in which ARM would be placed), yet are not identical requirements to primary architecture requirements? Chris Murphy -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel