Michael Schwendt wrote: > And nevertheless, this thread is also about an orphan within F-17: > > # yum install insight > [...] > --> Finished Dependency Resolution > Error: Package: insight-6.8.1-5.fc17.x86_64 (fedora) > Requires: iwidgets > > The missing requirement had built successfully for the > Fedora_17_Mass_Rebuild > http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=286344 This is exactly why retiring it was broken and now you're making it a PITA to fix that. It's required for another package and it works, it should not have been retired. > If no volunteers show up and adapt this package and its build > requirements, it will remain broken. Or somebody cleans up F-17 once more > prior to its final release and _retires_ packages like this one. Or, you know, people just UNRETIRE the dependency? The reason insight is orphaned in the first place is because of the indiscriminate retiring of its dependency (see the mailing list thread announcing the orphaning), the maintainer already stated he'll pick it up again if iwidgets is resurrected. Looks like a simple solution for a simple problem, and it's being made into a PITA because of religious pedantic application of a policy. IMHO, we should instruct our administrators to act in the best interest of the project no matter whether it matches the letter of the policies or not. > Is it too easy to create orphans so late in the process? It's too easy to remove working packages from the distribution. Insight would NOT be orphaned if it hadn't been for that. See above. > Is it too easy to create orphans without telling anyone about it? He did tell. See the thread he posted about it. Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel