On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 4:35 PM, Genes MailLists <lists@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Interesting poll - of course some will jump on it as a non-scientific > and why it's inadequate because it either is too broad an audience or > too narrow .. :-) Or perhaps with only 600+ participants the std error > may be too high (what is it anyway if one makes reasonable > distributional assumptions for the poll takers .. stats quiz :-) ) .. > > however it jives exactly with my own experience where everyone I know > dropped gnome shell and moved to either KDE or xfce (not without > grumbling) .. of course my experience is def too small a sample size :-) > > While it may make sense to make KDE the default DE for fedora - I > suspect that this cannot happen in fedora due to pressures from the > large number of gnome devs associated with Fedora - or could it? Should it? > > I wonder if moving Gnome shell as a tablet spin and making KDE the > default laptop/desktop DE would have been a really smart move. Is it too > late? Perhaps we all really want a phone DE on our 42 inch desktops with > a touch screen that somehow doesn't cause muscle strain ... > Yes it is a very small sample of self-selecting llinux enthusiasts who were prepared to enter their opinion on that site (as you say of order 600) - however it just might not be too far from general opinion on a much wider basis if the rumours one hears are anything like representative. I know this might be considered trolling but that is not the intention - there surely must be some level of concern that the things that have been chosen for primary support and development seem not to have the majority support of users and some of them could be influential in many ways. If that is the case then there is a risk that an ostrich like head-in-sand approach to the views of users may mean that the way things are planned for the future could lead to a migration away from Fedora to other distributions which could inflict lasting damage to Fedora and later Redhat. If I was a senior leader in Fedora I might want to know much more about what the general feelings were concerning this issue since the future development direction of where the effort in desktops should be concentrated could depend on it, and of course we all know it is impossible to measure with any real certainty. Maybe I am wrong completely - and Fedora has made all the right decisions all along and the new projects will just need a few bugs sorting out and all will be well with superb performance at the next GA for F17. I do hope that this will be the case. Nevertheless there has been a lot of disagreement on several key projects given several extremely long-running threads on the lists in recent weeks, which is in itself potentially damaging - and it would be more valuable if a future path was chosen and agreed by the majority that had more general consensus in support for which way to move ahead. That might be none to easy - but dissent in the ranks extended over a long period of time could cause difficulties. I would not like to see Fedora lose general support but the decisions on which version of grub, which main default desktop, which default daemon startup system and so on, is very important to people who will be using the distribution on a day-to-day basis - and some proportion of those day-to-day users are the test team on which development crucially depends. It is really important to have the significant majority on-board with the way things are moving. -- mike c -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
