On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 08:22:47PM +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Fri, 10.02.12 10:23, Toshio Kuratomi (a.badger@xxxxxxxxx) wrote: > > > On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 09:28:47AM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > On Fri, 2012-02-10 at 17:53 +0100, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > > > > > > > c) Systemd doesn't seem to preserve existing activated services upon > > > > update (I recall having to manually activate cron and rsyslog). > > > > > > This is documented in the common bugs: > > > > > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F16_bugs#Upgrade_from_previous_releases_resets_the_enablement_status_of_services > > > > > > (including my extra-special new invented word, 'enablement'!) > > > > > > Either FESCo or FPC, I forget which, requested that it be done this way, > > > even though there is a tool in systemd (systemd-sysv-convert) which > > > should have made it possible to bring over the present status of > > > services during the upgrade. > > > > > The phrasing of this makes it sound like systemd-sysv-convert is not being > > used. If you look at the guidelines, it is being used to preserve state but > > restoring the state of a particular service after a service is upgraded to > > use systemd config files is left to the system administrators. The design > > to leave that up to the administrators manuall actually came to FPC from the > > systemd developers. > > Ahum. I wrote systemd-sysv-convert to make FPC happy, not because I > think it's a good idea. > It certainly wasn't our first choice either :-) adamw's message could be read as systemd-sysv-convert was intended to automatically carry runlevel enablement in the sysv world over to the systemd world and that FPC decided to ignore its existence when writing the guidelines. I was correcting those impressions. -Toshio
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