----- Original Message ----- > From: "Peter Hutterer" <peter.hutterer@xxxxxxxxx> > To: "Development discussions related to Fedora" <devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Thursday, February 9, 2012 2:50:02 PM > Subject: Re: Does the X server in Rawhide eat Control-Space? > > On Wed, Feb 08, 2012 at 12:10:36PM -0500, Aleksandar Kurtakov wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Nicolas Mailhot" <nicolas.mailhot@xxxxxxxxxxx> > > > To: "Development discussions related to Fedora" > > > <devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > Sent: Wednesday, February 8, 2012 7:05:14 PM > > > Subject: Re: Does the X server in Rawhide eat Control-Space? > > > > > > > > > Le Mer 8 février 2012 12:17, Richard W.M. Jones a écrit : > > > > > > > > After updating everything on my laptop to Rawhide (forced to by > > > > usrmove) I noticed that emacs was no longer responding to > > > > Control-Space for setting the mark. > > > > > > > > It seems like the X server itself is eating this key > > > > combination, > > > > since emacs works fine in a virtual console, but doesn't work > > > > in > > > > any > > > > terminal or directly under X. > > > > > > > It seems a bit odd that X would capture this key combination > > > > ... > > > > > > IIRC it's consumed by input method switching now (whatever the > > > name > > > is this year) > > > > > > I don't think it's a good idea, lots of stuff already grabbed > > > this > > > combo (IIRC > > > some xkb maps do depend on ctrl+space) > > > > I have even opened FESCo ticket > > https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/798 > > to say on that because personally I think it's unacceptable and > > projects > > with such bad behaviour should be forced > > to learn playing with the rest. At least we still can add conflicts > > in our > > packages when we have to deal such changes because in my case > > Eclipse is > > totally unusable and I consider this as the only possible way to > > have > > working Eclipse package if ibus is not changed. > > to quote the ibus maintainer from the FESCo ticket: "we use [sic] > Control+Space for more than ten years" > > There is a legitimate issue of conflicting keyboard shortcuts but I > do ask > that you tone down the inflamatory language, assume other people mean > well > and accept sometimes conflicts just happen. Once that happens, you'll > probably notice that issues tend to get sorted faster, with more > happiness > all round. Peter, If you have read the comments in bugzilla you would have seen that I've been doing that until I got the following "I don't use your listed applications as daily works except for emacs." which is more or less "I don't use that so I don't care" at which point I changed my tone too and I'm not sorry about. My tone is completely modelled by the responses I got. And note that I got this response as a reply to me listing "kdevelop, netbeans, qtcreator, eclipse, emacs (uses ctrl+space in a number of combinations), monodevelop. And there are other things that will be affected - everything that includes kate-part (virtuallly the whole KDE desktop+ kile, lyx and etc.). " as broken. Say honestly, Do you consider this constructive? Alex > > Cheers, > Peter > > -- > devel mailing list > devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
