On Fri, Feb 03, 2012 at 05:53:04PM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Fri, 2012-02-03 at 17:47 -0800, darrell pfeifer wrote: > > > > > > On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 17:15, Adam Williamson <awilliam@xxxxxxxxxx> > > wrote: > > On Fri, 2012-02-03 at 16:27 -0800, darrell pfeifer wrote: > > > As far as I've seen on the list, the /usr move stuff was > > supposed to > > > be confined by tagging to f17-usermove so it wouldn't affect > > rawhide > > > until the big switch was pulled. > > > > > > Yes. We just pulled the big switch. :) > > > > > > > > The heads-up announcement that Harald did just over a week ago was a > > very good thing. > > > > From the smileys it seems there is a recognition that the change is a > > big deal. > > > > > > It would be nice if > > > > > > a) the date of the actual switch pulling had been announced in > > advance. > > b) the (now modified) instructions in basic form were re-iterated on > > the list. > > c) the switch was pulled at a time when the main people who made the > > change were available rather than known to be away at a conference > > This is still Rawhide, and it can still eat your babies. The main point > of the side branch was to allow us to back things out smoothly if it > became clear there were bigger problems than anticipated, not for > hand-holding. No, all of Darrell's points do apply here. It's very bad timing, indeed a very poor change to Fedora all round. Rich. -- Richard Jones, Virtualization Group, Red Hat http://people.redhat.com/~rjones virt-top is 'top' for virtual machines. Tiny program with many powerful monitoring features, net stats, disk stats, logging, etc. http://et.redhat.com/~rjones/virt-top -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel