Florian Müllner wrote: > I actually agree to that - if we used the notifier spec in the top bar, > we would either compromise on the intended experience, or provide a > crappy implementation. Or in other words: the spec is a poor fit for > what we try to achieve, so it makes sense to not use it. How is the current experience any better? Both kdelibs and libappindicator fall back to the legacy XEmbed system tray spec if the desktop does not implement the status notifier spec, so the icons will not only be hidden (due to your bad UI design), but also look crappy. (The status notifier spec was written for a reason, XEmbed is just a horrible way to implement this feature.) Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel