On mié, 2012-02-01 at 22:18 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: > So the argument that you're refusing to implement a cross-desktop protocol > in order to ban random applications from adding themselves to the panel is > bogus. No, the argument for refusing to implement the protocol is that the spec is bad. I was merely pointing out that *if* we used the protocol in the top bar, it would have been as an implementation detail with no benefit to applications (e.g. no way for applications to provide options to override that behavior as you imply) > > Because the "integrated experience" means that there is a fixed set of > > system items with a defined order. > > Including a bluetooth icon on a machine which does not even have bluetooth > hardware? This is just beyond silly! *sigh* You are trolling. > Notification messages and status notifier icons are totally independent > concepts with totally different use cases and totally different practical > uses. They are separate protocols for a reason. > > Notifications (also called "passive popups") are for one-off messages you > want to show to the user to inform them of something transient. Status > notifiers are for status icons the user wants to permanently keep an eye on, > such as network connectivity (which in fact you do realize needs a status > icon, or you wouldn't have hardcoded it in your shell). Except that applications can set a 'resident' hint on notifications, in which case a representive icon is kept in the message tray, from which the notification can be recalled; together with the ability to provide actions on notifications, the experience is not different from status icons. Florian -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
