On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 7:43 PM, Jef Spaleta <jspaleta@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > If you haven't read the new summary write-up on the benefits of the > /user feature that I think you would benefit from reading it. > http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/TheCaseForTheUsrMerge > > If you have read it, then I fear you either don't fully understand or > do not value the long term benefits associated with the filesystem > snapshotting nor the utility of having read-only shared vendor > supplied /usr across many guest instances. Apart from fixing things that are not a problem[1], the stateless/snapshotting benefits are, AFAIK, just vaporware promises. I can't see they can work as stated because /etc and /var are quite strongly bound to the details of contents of the newly proposed /usr - and these objections were raised back when FESCo first discussed this feature. Actually getting a stateless system would require first defining what is "state" and what is "OS" (and that question will have several different answers, for good reasons!), and then doing the actual work of separating the two. We already have a readonly-root facility in initscripts, and I think that one is doing it right - giving the people that want to use these (non-default, comparatively rarely-used and site-specific) features the power to create a stateless system without burdening the most common users with it. Mirek [1] Improved compatibility with Solaris - Seriously? We didn't need that level of compatibility back when Linux was a small niche, why would we care now? I feel mildly insulted by that argument. -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel