On 01/26/2012 02:34 AM, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 10:48:27PM +0000, Peter Robinson wrote: >> Hi All, >> >> So I saw a rpm update and a number of other builds today when dealing >> with various packaging bits. Checking the update [1] and reading the >> attached bug [2] I was a little shocked to find that "yum upgrade" >> between releases would be explicitly broken due to this feature. >> >> Yes, I know that it's not officially recommended as a means of >> upgrading and never been QAed it has been generally supported and >> expected to work [4] for as long as I can remember. >> >> The thing that is annoying me is that this change has not been >> explicitly mentioned in the "Feature" [3], it does no appear in the >> FAQ on the feature and I don't remember it ever being bought up in the >> discussions about the feature although I admit I probably have missed >> some of the discussion. Has this side effect of the feature been >> discussed at all? Can someone point me to a thread? >> > https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/690#comment:8 > > https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/118 > > IIRC from the discussion in FPC meetings, there should be a way to make yum > upgrades work but you'd first have to boot up specially and run an initial > upgrade script: > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Upgrading_Fedora_using_yum#Fedora_16_-.3E_Fedora_17 > > If the Feature Owners have progressed to the implementing stae, I would > greatly appreciate them updating that page with the actual step-by-step to > perform the upgrade (which will also allow people to test that things work). > > I also agree with your point that this discussion should be reflected on the > Feature page (Since the Feature page is where marketing material is taken > from). Could that be updated as well? > > -Toshio > > > I wonder where is mentioned the change of guidelines. I didn't find at [1]. Should we stop using /bin in our new packages now or when? I really feel that this change is not well communicated and well planned. I hope someone from FPC will give us an update on changes in packaging. [1] fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackagingGuidelines Marcela -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel