On Sat, 2012-01-21 at 12:33 +0000, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 06:31:44PM -0500, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > > For the record, I am referencing > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/BugStatusWorkFlow#CLOSED > > > > Currently, the official bug lifecycle includes the following phrase: > > "The resolution UPSTREAM can be used by maintainers to denote a bug that > > they expect to be fixed by upstream development and naturally rolled > > back into Fedora as part of the update process. Ideally, a comment > > should be added with a link to the upstream bug report." > > > > I've seen quite a few bugs lately closed with this resolution (mostly in > > the Evolution and GNOME projects for me personally). It seems to me that > > this is terribly useless in terms of informing users when their bugs are > > fixed. > > > > Essentially, when closing this bug as UPSTREAM, we are communicating to > > our users "This will get fixed. Probably. And it will get pulled into > > Fedora eventually. Probably." Most people, when they can actually be > > convinced to file a real bug report (even through ABRT), are doing so > > because they have an issue with the software and want to know when it's > > fixed. > > I was all set to disagree with you, but I think your analysis of the > text on that wiki page is spot on. > > That's not how _I_ use CLOSED -> UPSTREAM. I use it to indicate that > the bug *has been fixed* upstream. And if I'm feeling conscientious I > also add the version number where the fix (is/will) appear. This > should mean the user just needs to wait for the updated version to > appear in Fedora, and won't need to track upstream closely. > > I think the text on the wiki page ought to be changed. Well, it went through a review process on both this list and test list when I was writing it, and that was the text we wound up with. I don't recall the details, but I wouldn't just have pulled the definition out of my ass; it would be based on actual usage by developers. So a single 'that's not how I use it, change it!' request probably isn't enough weight. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
