Re: Requesting a change to the BugStatusWorkFlow: Closed/UPSTREAM

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On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 06:31:44PM -0500, Stephen Gallagher wrote:
> For the record, I am referencing
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/BugStatusWorkFlow#CLOSED
> 
> Currently, the official bug lifecycle includes the following phrase:
> "The resolution UPSTREAM can be used by maintainers to denote a bug that
> they expect to be fixed by upstream development and naturally rolled
> back into Fedora as part of the update process. Ideally, a comment
> should be added with a link to the upstream bug report."
> 
> I've seen quite a few bugs lately closed with this resolution (mostly in
> the Evolution and GNOME projects for me personally). It seems to me that
> this is terribly useless in terms of informing users when their bugs are
> fixed.
> 
> Essentially, when closing this bug as UPSTREAM, we are communicating to
> our users "This will get fixed. Probably. And it will get pulled into
> Fedora eventually. Probably." Most people, when they can actually be
> convinced to file a real bug report (even through ABRT), are doing so
> because they have an issue with the software and want to know when it's
> fixed.

I was all set to disagree with you, but I think your analysis of the
text on that wiki page is spot on.

That's not how _I_ use CLOSED -> UPSTREAM.  I use it to indicate that
the bug *has been fixed* upstream.  And if I'm feeling conscientious I
also add the version number where the fix (is/will) appear.  This
should mean the user just needs to wait for the updated version to
appear in Fedora, and won't need to track upstream closely.

I think the text on the wiki page ought to be changed.

Rich.

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