man, 06.09.2004 kl. 21.04 skrev Rui Miguel Seabra: > On Mon, 2004-09-06 at 13:14 -0400, seth vidal wrote: > > On Mon, 2004-09-06 at 16:32 +0100, Rui Miguel Seabra wrote: > > > On Mon, 2004-09-06 at 08:48 -0400, Konstantin Ryabitsev wrote: > > > > On Mon, 2004-09-06 at 17:07 +0900, Naoki wrote: > > > > > I missed the thread, what happened to 'upgrade' ? > > > > > > > > yum --obsoletes update > > > > > > I honestly fail to understand why this isn't the default. > > > > osboletes can be what you set if you want. > > > > just set obsoletes=1 in the [main] section of your yum.conf > > Oh, I've already done that. I just think it should be the default. > > > however obsoletes should not be the default b/c of circular obsoletes. > > ie: > > foo obsoletes bar > > baz osboletes foo > > bar obsoletes baz > > > > and if you don't think that happens, look around, it definitely does. > > Well, I thought there was a process for package submission, review and > what not. Of course accidents happen. But this is no excuse, or is a > "meta packager" like yum not better than plain rpm in itself? > > As far as I can see, I have to solve about as many problems as I did > without a metapackager (--obsoletes, --exclude=..., etc...). The job of > a meta packager is making things easier. > > My praise was precisely that yum has had a giant step towards this goal, > but there are definitely corners to round. > > Anyway, loops are not that hard to find, just mark where you've been > previously (prolog 101) and handle apropriately (ie, until repo fixes > it, I can't do anything that touches foo, bar or baz, may I proceed with > the rest?). Yup, ran into that when running "daily yum update" on a network, and discovered that "xmms-mp3" (installed from apt) blocked "xmms", and when xmms couldn't be upgraded, there is no reason to even try with the rest, right? > > Rui But this looks cool! Is there any plans for integrating rpm with yum - so that rpm would ask "you need dependancy foo, bar, baz.so in order to install this package, shall i ask yum to fetch them for you? (y/n)" BTW. Guess i forgot to introduce my self: My name is Kyrre Ness Sjøbæk, and i come from Norway, where i go to "high-school" (think that is the closest matching term - probably university next year) and also helps rolling out/maintaining Linux on my school, while feeling pity for the windows-guy who dont have any good scripting tools at hand... I know some programming (a bit of that and another bit of that), but that is probably not what i'm best at. I think i mostly joined this list in order to "see whats going on", but if there is anything i might help out with, ill be glad. Kyrre Ness Sjøbæk
