On 4 November 2011 13:06, Kevin Fenzi <kevin@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Fri, 04 Nov 2011 11:55:00 -0700 > Adam Williamson <awilliam@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> On Fri, 2011-11-04 at 11:53 -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote: >> >> > > I am concerned with the process as executed not matching the >> > > documentation. I'd just like to see a change codified that either >> > > allows moving the Go / No-Go meeting when appropriate or just >> > > schedule it closer to the readiness meeting. >> > >> > I think moving the go/no-go meetings to thursdays and moving the >> > readyness meeting to friday is a fine plan. I think our mirroring >> > is in shape enough to where if we stage things late thursday or >> > friday morning we should be ok. >> > >> > If we do this, next cycle we should NOT do any 'two part' go/no-go >> > meetings. >> >> Well, what we were thinking of was moving go/no-go without moving >> release readiness: there's no real reason there needs to be a whole >> day between them, there's no tasks that must happen *after* go/no-go >> but *before* release readiness AFAIK, so that whole day just winds up >> being dead time. There's no intrinsic reason they can't simply be 1hr >> apart, as we did for 16 Final. >> >> So hey, if Friday's okay, we could do 'em both on Friday... > > Well, friday might be cutting it a bit close. I guess we can see how > rapidly mirrors sync up for 16 and use that data to decide. > > I think we have a more robust mirror tiering setup now than we had in > the past, so it may not take as long for tier0/1 mirrors to get content > and filter it out to others. I believe I have uttered those words before.. they are like saying "I only have 2 days before retirement" in a movie :). In the past when we have moved the release time closer we seem to end up with a series of Tier-1 outages or some other issue where it takes a while to get bits out. I would like to make sure that there are 100 hours before release to make sure we have reasonable coverage. -- Stephen J Smoogen. "The core skill of innovators is error recovery, not failure avoidance." Randy Nelson, President of Pixar University. "Let us be kind, one to another, for most of us are fighting a hard battle." -- Ian MacLaren -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel