Kevin Kofler wrote: > Jim Meyering wrote: >> glibc-2.14.90-12.999, which has just made it to stable provokes a >> hard-to-diagnose (for me at least) problem. >> >> While most things work, and it fixed two problems that affected me, >> it caused me some frustration: >> >> https//bugzilla.redhat.com/747377 > > glibc-2.14.90-12.999 also breaks the build of ANY C++ code using fenv.h, > which affects at least Qt (but likely also several other C++ packages, > particularly mathematical ones, but not only, as can be seen from Qt). > Thankfully, that showstopper is fixed in -13 which is already in stable by > now (because it was aggressively up-karma'd by the KDE SIG). > > The fact that a glibc with showstoppers of this kind got pushed to stable > shows that the karma system does not work at all. It worked in a way, but was an interesting case. As I see it, the general series of events went something like this: -10 was *generally* ok -11 fixed a few bugs, but introduced the nasty "breaks grokking of /etc/groups", down karma'd -12 fixed some other bug, down-karma'd for not fixing -11 -12.999 got massive up-karma for fixing -11 problem, *but* introduced a new problem/regression. Got pushed stable. -13 was, of course, damage control from the fall-out from 12.999... Now, I'd argue the process worked up to -12.999, regressions were kept out of stable updates. The fail(*), imo, was with 12.999 going stable containing known-regressions. So, any suggestions, if any, to prevent any similar series of events? -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel