On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 4:13 PM, Jason D. Clinton <me@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> 2) The machine has a server function. In this case working wake on lan and >> stay active on lan are a must have and until we have those it should not >> auto suspend. > > WOL for a network server is madness. It shouldn't have been suggested. Well, it's not well supported now across the stack, but it is surely not madness. On the XO hardware we actually use WOL while there peer-to-peer network connections up. On x86 the wakeup time is not so good. On the upcoming ARM model, the wakeup time is expected to be very low. We are sorting out wakeup right now so can't really say, but surely <100ms. This means that blade servers running ARM (or any SoC where power mgmt has been well designed) can be drawing ~250mw in a suspend that looks a lot like a very deep sleep. No fans, no "aircon footprint". Are there things to resolve on the way to making this practical? Definitely! Should we be riding the "I want lower power draw / fast+transparent suspend/deep-idle on my netbook" wave to benefit the server space? I sure think so. > A fully power-saved Sandy Bridge laptop in the state you lay out above > is around 7W. A suspended laptop from the same generation consumes > roughly 0.4W of power. Stand-by is 0.1W. Interesting numbers. The big questions is -- does it suspend and resume fast and transparently enough that you can treat suspend as a "very deep idle"? And how fast can we bring those improvements to the much bigger numbers you have for servers. m -- martin.langhoff@xxxxxxxxx martin@xxxxxxxxxx -- Software Architect - OLPC - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel