Hey, everyone. I'm starting to get a bit concerned about one aspect of the SysV to systemd conversion process. I've come across three separate bugs where the default and/or post-upgrade state of services was incorrect: in two cases, the service changed from being disabled by default in F15 to being enabled by default in F16, and in another case, a service went from being enabled by default in F15 to being disabled by default in F16. These changes were not intentional, simply mistaken. Obviously both of these can have major consequences (one of the above cases broke libvirt networking and certain aspects of NetworkManager, another prevented sealert from working by default), so I'd ask those who've migrated their package's services from sysv to systemd to please double-check their handling of this. It's pretty simple. This %post snippet enables a service by default: %post if [ $1 -eq 1 ] ; then /bin/systemctl enable foobar.service >/dev/null 2>&1 || : fi so *don't put that in* unless your service is actually meant to be enabled by default. (Remember, you need FESCo's permission for that). If your service was enabled by default before and is supposed to be enabled by default now, put that snippet in. This %triggerun snippet enables a service on upgrade from the pre-systemd-conversion package: %triggerun -- %{name} < 1.0-2 /bin/systemctl --no-reload enable foobar.service >/dev/null 2>&1 ||: (assuming 1.0-2 is the version in which you did the systemd migration). If your service was enabled by default prior to the conversion, apparently, you're supposed to put that in: the guidelines page doesn't attempt to account for the case where a service was enabled by default but disabled by the user, those users are going to find the services get enabled again. Again, *don't put that snippet in* unless your service is meant to be enabled by default. If it was enabled by default before and is still supposed to be enabled by default, *do put that snippet in*. Otherwise the service will go from enabled to disabled when people upgrade. So: if your service is meant to be enabled by default, put those two bits in. If it's not, please don't! Thanks. If you're not sure whether your service was previously enabled by default or not, look in the header of the SysV service. If it was enabled by default, you'll see something like this: # Default-Start: 3 4 5 # chkconfig: 345 26 74 The 'Default-Start: 3 4 5' and 'chkconfig: 345' bits mean the service was enabled by default on runlevels 3, 4 and 5. (26 and 74 are the startup / shutdown ordering for the service.) If it wasn't enabled by default, there'll be no Default-Start line, and the chkconfig line will have only two blocks, the startup/shutdown ordering definitions. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel