On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 09:57:34 -0600, Stephen John Smoogen <smooge@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > In reading the long trash each other fest that accompanies pre-release > jitters, could we start on a cleaner plate? What do the people who are > using rawhide day-in/day-out expect out of the channel? What level of > pain does someone like Jonathan Corbet expect and how can we better > serve them? [And no this isnt me trying for another distro quote of > the week, he is just my reference point of someone I know who runs > rawhide day in and out.] I am currently using rawhide for my main home desktop. My use of it changes over time. Sometimes it's because I want to start testing what will be branched before branching has occurred. Sometimes I want to test bigger changes there to evaluate whether a major update is baked enough for the next release or to see if it is suitable for previous releases. Things that cause problems for me are broken dependencies and people not doing rawhide builds, causing fixes to be delayed. (Note that rawhide doesn't inherit stuff in updates-testing.) I seem to run into kernel issues more than other people. Though I am now finding that working with upstream directly for regessions in development kernels seems to be a better process than going through Fedora. Changes in gnome have had significant negative impact for periods during this development cycle. But that isn't much different than for branched and probably will be less likely to be an issue again for several releases. -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
