Clyde E. Kunkel <clydekunkel7734@xxxxxxx> wrote: > On 09/11/2011 04:33 AM, Jim Meyering wrote: > > darrell pfeifer wrote: > >> Fails for me too, with the same error. > > > > Thanks for confirming that. > > > > I don't mean to be rude or inflammatory, but do have to wonder how such > > a fundamentally-broken package was released -- even to rawhide. In the > > fedora openssh release process, isn't there some sort of sanity check > > that would catch this before inflicting it on all rawhide users? > Maybe there needs to be a classification for rawhide similar to the > karma system for updates-testing, but limited to just a set of packages > that should just always work (maybe openssh would be one). For such > packages, there should be a test validation set that the maintainer runs > to automatically allow the package into rawhide. > > I know in the past when such things have been discussed, some > maintainers chimed in that they do have test sets that they run on their > packages. If that is so, that should count into whatever karma system is put in place. > Doesn't have to be for all packages, just the ones that are critical or > necessary. Yeah, defining those will be a challenge, but then what they > hey, makes life interesting. The problem is that what is critical for me might be completely irrelevant for you. I.e., TeXlive _has_ to work for me, if libreoffice fails to work it can be a annoyance at worst; most users will wonder what TeXlive is and scream bloody murder when libreoffice has hickups. On this (work) machine the SSH server is a convenience (for logging in from the phone when away from my desk for a fast check or such), on my "server" it is the only convenient way to get in. Perhaps the Critical Path packages <https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Critical_Path_Packages> need extra care during their lifetime, not just leading up to release? Perhaps OpenSSH should be added (or placed in a separate "server critical" category, given the above is mostly install/running/updating for "final users")? BTW, I've seen several times that updating the server makes a running instance non-responsive, but been too lazy to report it. -- Dr. Horst H. von Brand User #22616 counter.li.org Departamento de Informatica Fono: +56 32 2654431 Universidad Tecnica Federico Santa Maria +56 32 2654239 Casilla 110-V, Valparaiso, Chile 2340000 Fax: +56 32 2797513 -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
