On Tue, 2011-08-30 at 15:12 -0500, Chris Adams wrote: > Once upon a time, Simo Sorce <simo@xxxxxxxxxx> said: > > I said: > > A) 99.9% of users do not needed the floppy anymore > > B) I said hang for "long periods" and not "forever", where here "long" > > is of course relative to modern machine boot times. > > You said: > > It seem much more intelligent to add a package owners of floppies can > install, so that 99.9% of the others do not have to wait forever for no > reason. > > http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2011-August/156261.html > > To me, that reads as "99.9% of non-floppy owners have to wait forever". Ok, reasonable misunderstanding, I didn't mean it that way, sorry. > In any case, instead of arguing semantics, can you answer my actual > question? How many systems hang when floppy.ko is loaded? If it is a > large number, it should be easy to point to lots of data. They do not 'hang', they just take longer to boot, sometimes a lot longer. The point is that given most machines do not even ship with a floppy drive anymore it seem entirely reasonable to spare the wait to most users because they do not need that support anyway (and even most of those who have a floppy driver do not use it ever). While for those few that need it, then having to install a simple package to enable the support by default seem sensible and good enough. I don't think I have anything more to add to that. Simo. -- Simo Sorce * Red Hat, Inc * New York -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel