Re: [HEADS UP] remove ddate(1) command from rawhide

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On Mon, 29 Aug 2011 08:47:40 -0500, JC (Jon) wrote:

> >> The Julian and Gregorian calendars are also of religious origin.
> >
> > Apples and oranges.
> >
> > Do you find anything like in the "SEE ALSO" section of "man ddate" also
> > in "man date"?

> That may be (both are human constructs, it's like say "hey, that's made up
> word!", but no, I don't.  My point is simply that while it is extremely
> silly code, it is in fact code provided by upstream.  It's still
> maintained, is of a valid license, and I don't see a valid reason to break
> with upstream here.  If you can convince upstream to split it out or drop
> it, great.  If not, and there isn't a compelling disk space or security
> argument, I really don't see why this should be dropped.  I'm looking for
> a clear example of demonstrable harm.  It's 14k of silliness, not a
> rootkit.

With that point of view, it's probably impossible to convince you.
I won't try. I just encourage Karel to get rid of ddate somehow.

A "valid reason" IMO is to build a base distribution, a product -- our
product -- which does not consist of "extremely silly code" and which
does not advertise dubious religions. Not even with links as found in the
manual. There are several scenarios where we divert from upstream due
to various circumstances.

Whether it's harmful to distribute ddate, I don't know. Isn't it enough
reason to not offer something because it's considered silly/crazy crap?
Or if it doesn't make sense to ship it as part of a default OS environment?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discordianism#Discordian_calendar

| Most common Linux operating system-distributions have the command ddate
| to show the current Discordian date.

Strange people these Linux people.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discordian_calendar#Implementations

| ddate, a program that prints the current date in the Discordian calendar,
| is part of the util-linux package of basic system utilities.[6] As such,
| it is included in nearly all Linux distributions, despite some
| resistance.[7] There are many other programs with similar functionality.

 -> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=149321
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