On Fri, 19.08.11 18:00, Reindl Harald (h.reindl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx) wrote: Heya, > * no feedback of systemctl and wrong from /sbin/service-wrapper Like most Unix commands systemctl will not output anything in case of success, only on failure. See cp, ln, mv, rm for similar behaviour. > * systemctl does not stop .socket if you stop .service And it shouldn't. There's an item on the todo list to add a warning if the user stops a service unit but leaves the socket unit running. > * useless auto-completion for systemctl Hmm? Bug#? > * no progress while fs-check on boot The way I'd like to see this fixed is that fsck's -C switch can optionally take a path like /dev/console to output its progress bar. Then again, ideally the progress information would be passed on to Plymouth instead of the console. In both cases systemd should probably not be involved. > * no green Ok / red FAILED at boot time, only a desert of text Not really true. First of all, we will output "Starting ..." and "Started ..." messages as the boot proceeds if you remvoe "quiet" from the kernel cmdline. If a service fails, we will even say that and highlight it in red. What we won't do however is mark success in green, in order to keep visual distraction minimal. On top of that, at any time you can type in "systemctl" and you'll get colorful output of what services successfully started and which ones didn't. This is a substantial improvement over classic SysV where the boot time output scrolled away quickly and only screen-scraping could help to get a bit of an idea what actually started properly and what didn't. Lennart -- Lennart Poettering - Red Hat, Inc. -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel