-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 27/07/11 16:24, Miloslav Trmač wrote: > On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 4:13 PM, Lennart Poettering > <mzerqung@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> On Wed, 27.07.11 16:05, Miloslav Trmač (mitr@xxxxxxxx) wrote: >>> On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 4:01 PM, Lennart Poettering [...snip...] >> d) there is point in having a standardized dir for this > *shrug* Anyone knowledgeable enough to install software in $HOME is > able to configure $PATH, and with some probability has strong opinions > on where the $prefix should be. Agreed that having standards is great. Unfortunately, it so often seems that everyone wants their own standards. >> hence: let's just change the xdg basedir spec to standardize it. > IMHO the ~/.local/bin place is a mistake, and it's still not too late > to stop making this mistake irreversible. I'm torn. I've been using ~/bin for over a decade already, which is probably why I don't like ~/.local/bin. I also don't like the fact that an application can easily install scripts/binaries into a directory I will most likely forget to check - and have this in my path. I do know exactly which files I have in ~/bin - I know so because I placed them there. However, my workaround will most likely be: mv ~/bin/* ~/.local/bin ln -fs ~/.local/bin ~/bin restorecon ~/.local/bin But I'm far from convinced ~/.local/bin is clever. So far I've only seen "oh this is nice to have!" arguments. I haven't seen anything which brings the strong "need to have" argument. However, I find ~/.local an odd name. To whom or what is it 'local'? If you have home directories mounted via NFS and log into two different remote hosts via SSH - the only base is "local" to, is the user. But if you start a program which is installed on server but lacks global libraries on the other server, then this program is suddenly "local" to a particular server in addition. My point is that "local" is very ambiguous and its name is poorly chosen. But I realise it's way too late to change "~/.local" to anything now. And this leads to why I'd like to see a much broader discussion on the topic about ~/.local/bin, also bringing it outside of Fedora's core. Lets rather move forward with more caution. kind regards, David Sommerseth -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk4xNxkACgkQIIWEatLf4HeK/wCfcM2koOSYuAD5E+OPNzLnjzGM KTgAoIm/+qZPqIQWaVgzN5pfo6v9c1+7 =uNOh -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel